Welcome to the trade forum

To start your own trading thread, YOU MUST post a full list of haves and wants. In order to trade you do not have to have a list of haves and wants, if you don't want to start your own thread.

This is a TRADING forum, do some trading. If you do not post a full haves/wants list you can count on your thread being locked and or deleted. The reason for this is that we are trying to save on resources. If you don't post a full haves/wants list you tax our resources. If for whatever reason you don't want to post a full list, you can still trade, you just can't start your own thread.

2. REFERENCES – Whoever has fewer references sends first.

What’s a reference? It’s a number that determines how many different people you have traded with successfully. It shows how trustworthy you are. Face it, trading on the internet is risky, there's a chance you won't get what you have been promised but with the reference system in place, you can be relatively assured that if you're trading with someone with a high rating you'll get your cards. Now, does that mean you shouldn't trade with someone with a low rating? No, but it does mean you should exercise extreme caution when doing so. And if someone with very few posts and a decent trader rating PMs you to make a deal, be wary, because they most likely want to rip you off.

2B. Negative References:

YOU MAY NOT FORCE USERS WHO HAVE NEGATIVE REFERENCES TO SEND FIRST. That means no rules such as "If you have negative references you send first." in your rules listing.

EXCEPTION: If a moderator on the trading committee gives you a negative reference that says "THIS USER SENDS FIRST UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE".

You MAY have a rule such as "I WILL NOT TRADE WITH TRADERS WHO HAVE NEGATIVE REFERENCES" or "I WILL NOT TRADE THOUGH THE POST", that is fine, but you cannot blanketly make users with negative references to send first.

3. How to Package and Ship your cards.

YOU MUST SEND YOUR CARDS IN A TOP-LOADER. They are cheap and easy to find, and will protect cards in the mail.

3a. I didn't send with enough postage. Can I back out of the trade?

NO, Absolutely NOT! In fact what you should do is include something to compensate your partner for the added time it's going to take to get them their cards. We are getting a LOT of people who claim that they haven't put on enough postage lately. Royal Mail has a GREAT website that lets you calculate the cost of shipping ANY package. Not enough postage is not a viable excuse, it just means you're lazy.

3b. My trade partner didn't ask for condition. Can I still send out damaged stuff?

NO! Please tell your trade partner the condition of the stuff you are sending out. If your trade partner sends out damaged cards or electronics that don't work he or she has every right to leave a bad reference and vice versa.

4. Each user is allowed ONE active trading topic

6. NO SALE ONLY TOPICS! NO AUCTIONS!

Simultaneous trading/selling on your trade list is fine, as long as selling isn't your primary goal (There's Ebay for that) and if you think you’re going to get around the rule by having only a few high end wants that no one is going to have, you’re quite mistaken. If you are caught doing an auction or having a sell-only topic, you will be punished.

7. DO NOT post your address or other personal information in this forum. Conduct your final negotiations PM, so that you have a record, AND KEEP THOSE EMAILS OR PMS UNTIL THE DEAL IS FINISHED. I HIGHLY recommend that you get and verify an outside email address, and not rely on Pojo for your only form of communication with your trading partners. DO NOT ASK FOR SOMEONE's EMAIL ADDRESS AFTER THE FACT. GET IT UP FRONT AND VERIFY IT.

8. No Member takes responsibility for the trades that you decide to make.

9. All other forum rules apply here, no spamming, no bashing, flooding, etc.

10. What constitutes a trade?

Person A says "I'll trade you my non-mint Don Zaloog for your Goblin Attack Force".

Person B says "Okay".
Confirmation on who is sending first, and any shipping options
Example:

Person A says "I have 12 refs, you have 8. You would be sending first."
Person B says "I'll send out tomorrow."

Shipping options example:

Person A says "I need those cards by Saturday...is it possible for us to both send Priority Mail?"
Person B says "I don't need the cards that quickly...but if you reimburse me, I'll send. You can either send me cash, or throw in that D. D. Warrior Lady."
Person A says "I'll add the D D Warrior Lady."

As with most rules, there are exceptions:
If you post that you'll make a trade, and the other person accepts, and the other person IMMEDIATELY backs out, as if joking or taunting, that's illegal, and will probably get you temp banned.
If you exchanged addresses, and agreed on a deal, but one trader tries to back out because they would have to send first, that's a breach of the rules, and you may leave a neutral or negative feedback accordingly.
Remember, we are not responsible for the trades you make. Common Sense should dictate your actions. CHECK YOUR TRADING PARTNER'S Reference RATINGS YOURSELF! GET AN EMAIL ADDRESS when you trade so that you can contact that person outside of the board if need be. We do our best to make sure that our members don't get ripped off, but sometimes it's not enough, so make sure you protect yourself.

Do not EVER EVER post your email address or your home address on a public message board.

Don't trade something you can't afford to lose until you have built up a trust with your trading partner




So you got ripped off, what do you do now?

Well, first thing is make sure you truly got ripped off. Attempt to contact your trading partner any way possible. For this very reason we recommend that you get and VERIFY an email address on every trade you make with someone new. Chances are, if you truly got ripped off, your trading partner won't bother to read a PM from you, or will have a full inbox. So USE EMAIL. Heck get a phone number if it's a trade for big money cards.

Also, make sure you've allowed a REASONABLE amount of time since the trade was finalized. I don't know HOW many people come in here and say, "I traded with this guy two weeks ago, and I haven't gotten his cards". Hey sometimes people don't get cards in the mail as fast as they'd like to. I've done it myself. Wait at LEAST three weeks before you even think you've been ripped.

If you're sure you got ripped, leave a negative reference, that will get your partner's attention.

Frequently Asked Questions AND Answers



Your Trade Thread and Making the Deal

Q: Can we post "Not trading with anyone with a Negative Reference"?
A: Yes

Q: By that token, can we post “Not trading with anyone In real Life or though the post?”
A: Yes

Q: When is the deal confirmed?
A: When addresses/personal details/Real Name are exchanged.

Q: My partner wants to back out, except that addresses have been exchanged. What can I do?

A: If addresses are exchanged, then your partner would be breaking his contract. You may leave them a neutral or negative reference. BUT be sure to keep your PMs regarding this deal, because more likely than not, they will retaliate and leave you a negative as well.

Q: My trading partner suddenly wants to change the trade, after addresses have been exchanged. Can they do that?
A: He/she can but expect a negative or neutral reference for changing the deal.

Q: I'm making a trade with someone, but he put down his username rather than his actual name to send to. Is that OK?
A: No, please use your real name when trading.

Q: I just want to get rid of my Yugioh collection. can I do that if that’s all I'm going to do or does there have to be a trade to go with it?
A: No, this isn't ebay go sell it on ebay.

Q: If your trading Japanese cards do you have to be specific that they were Japanese cards?
A: Yeah, language/edition should always be specified for pretty much every game.

Q: Would I be able to put up a friend or a sibling’s trade list on my trade thread?
A: No

Q: Isn't there a rule about not allowing to advertise things on your list that you don't have in hand yet?
A: You can advertise them, but you need to state that their not in yet.

Q: Is there a rule about really rare and expensive cards and proof of ownership?
A: Yes, you must be able to provide a picture of the expensive card.

Q: I've noticed traders who work together and trade from one binder (team binder)...Is this allowed?
A: No

Buying and Selling Cards

Q: Does buyer sent first or seller sent first.
A: Less refs have to send first.

Shipping Items

Q: Are you supposed to send the cards through first class mail or in a box you drop off at the post office?
A: It doesn't matter

Q: Do I have to use Top-Loaders? And where can I find them?
A: Yes, and you can find them anywhere.

Q: I didn’t put enough postage on my cards and it either took forever, my partner had to pay, or they got sent back. Is that a problem?
A: Yes, prepare for a neutral or negative reference if so.

Recurring Problems/Punishments


Q: If I trade with someone, and they send first, but I never receive the cards, what can I do? Is there anyway to prove I didn't receive or do I have to send their end without getting the cards I was promised?
A: If they were to send first, and you haven’t received, wait at least 30 days and then leave a negative or neutral reference. BUT BEWARE - This can fall into a he-said/she-said situation, since there is no way to prove you DID NOT get the cards, if you neg ref someone, and they neg ref you back.

Q: I completed a trade with a user who is now banned or banned from trading. I was wondering if there is some way I can get in contact him, or if my only option since everyone else is having this problem is to file mail fraud?
A: Get an e-mail address or house number.

Q: I bought a card from another user, when I received it, I found it to be in far from mint condition, and a note was included: "Here's your card, I'll be waiting for your $20. You never asked for the condition, so you can't complain about that. I guess you should have read my rules." While I think this is total bull****, I read the rules again and found nothing that related to my circumstance. I am thinking that he is correct in saying I can't complain about it because in his rules he stated that if I don't ask for the condition, he assumes that I don't care. I never asked, so he assumed I didn't care. Obviously with the note, he KNEW that I would and do care. Is it against the rules to send back the card? Or was it my responsibility to ask for the condition?
A: "Ask about condition or you don't care" rule DOESN'T EXIST and NEVER has so don't put it on your trade thread. If you get bent or messed up cards you may leave a negative reference.

Q: If a card I am trading for is damaged before it reaches me (meaning that it's not in the condition as promised due to an incident before it was sent), what can I do?
A: Either ask for compensation (to make up for the damage), ask for a mint one, or accept it and leave neutral or negative feedback.

Q: Say you trade with someone twice and they give you positive feedback both times. does that count as a ref? Ex: say you have 3 refs and you traded again with the same person and your trade rating does not go up. can you say that you have 4 refs or three?
A: Nope. You get a +1 for each different USER you have traded with, not each trade.

Q: I just got a ref notice from someone I never traded with. What should I do?
Edit: I just realized that jerk gave me a negative ref, all I did was tell him his "misprint" card was worthless. How can I get my ref back?
A: Start a thread requesting your negative to be removed, stating you have never traded with that individual.


Rip-Offs


Q: What if someone ripped you off...with high refs...what should you do if that is the case....what kind of proof do we need to prove my case to you if that should happen?
A: The same as in all cases. However the evidence must be clear without a shadow of the doubt s/he ripped you.

Q: Would priority mail and tracking number give enough evidence?
A: Tracking and Delivery Conformation would be better.

Q: If a user is banned and comes back under a different name is that legal? I always thought that if a user is permanently banned they can't come back under a new name
A: They will try to come back, most of our users think they’re smarter than us and will try to come back. So ALWAYS be wary of people with under 5 trader ratings who have just joined. If you see someone you believe may be a banned user who has come back, use the report-bad topic button on one of their posts or trade threads and we’ll handle it.

Q: I was wondering if you Insured/confirmation #'d a package, and got ripped from it, what you could actually do to get it back or what compensation I can expect.
A: File mail fraud. When you use delivery confirmation and tracking then you have a much better chance of the USPS recovering something for you, and/or the ripper being convicted of a felony.

Q: Can the mods email a guy that ripped me off and got banned and ask him to send?
A: No.


Finally, have fun and Happy Trading!

The Moderators